David Suzuki on our economy and environment, part 3 of 6
Renowned Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki speaks about the environment, the economy, climate change and our future. Speaking at a benefit event for the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, in Vancouver, BC.
I dont understand what your writting it does not make sense. Please elaborate.
Comment by ooglebydoogleby — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
systems science works within the framework of a material world, if not as simply mechanistic as Newtonian mechanics
Comment by hyperauxia — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
Quantumn mechanics is reductionism it is just unexpected results from reductionism which have illuminated the gaps in our understanding of the material universe. I understand there are implications but filling the gaps with some etherial geus work does not strike me as being very impresive. They certainly dont point to non materialist aproaches yeilding results.
Comment by ooglebydoogleby — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
holism and systems theory. as Suzuki said,
it was motivated by physicists (especially of quantum mechanics) who found reductionism broke down and couldn’t explain the nature of reality. those ideas have application to ecology, cybernetics, and all fields of study. as the commenter stratvic said, elements of both approaches are needed
Comment by hyperauxia — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
ive got to be honest this idea that science is trying to reconstruct the world sounds suspicously flawed. its just trying to understand it. whats the alternative to reductionism understanding emergent properties through the i ching? sounds suspicously like a god of the gaps argument without the god bit. great speaker but not at all sure about his rational on that bit have to watch the rest.
Comment by ooglebydoogleby — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
To understand a system you need to be both holistic and reductionist. Neither work on their own.
Comment by stratvic — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
It was a Penn and Teller prank at a environmentalist convention. They got well meaning people to sign a petition banning water by using scientifically accurate information about the properties of water.
There is a clip here on you tube. watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw
Comment by stratvic — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
rather incoherent post! care to explain further?
Comment by yirphd — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
what do u mean?
Comment by thankqwerty — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am
have the foresight to see when you are being bought, look up good meaning green people signing petition to ban all water because they didn’t understand it entirely di hydrogen monoxide =H2O or plain and simple water!
Comment by OrganicDrew — October 28, 2009 @ 12:43 am